How do we diffuse the feminazi bombs?

WE HAVE HEARD WOMEN TOO MUCH AND WE HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO DOMINATE MEN ALL THROUGH THE CENTURIES. TELL ME HOW MANY WOMEN DIE IN WARS, IN THE COURSE OF DUTY, HOW MANY WOMEN ARE INSIDE PRISONS FOR CRIMES COMMITTED, HOW MANY WOMEN ARE IN DIFFICULT AND DANGEROUS PROFESSIONS WHEN COMPARED TO MEN. WHAT IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF MEN AND THAT OF WOMEN. It says it all! Men are disposable creatures. While women make the bed, men are out there to defend the society against all forms of attacks. Earlier, it was the nature and animals. Now it is attacks from other countries and terrorists. Often, it is attack from nature in the form of natural disasters. Men are always expected to take on the riskiest jobs and lay down their lives to defend the nation while women enjoy the comforts of their homes. The Titanic saw the women being off-loaded while the men sank with the ship. Traditions were formed to suit women more than men. If women are physically weaker, nature has compensated that by giving her intuitive power to control the physically stronger men. That’s exactly what she does. Men are the weaker sex because of their weakness for the weaker sex. Physical weakness alone does not constitute weakness. Physical body is just one aspect of life. The brains, intuition etc constitute others. If men had revolted against all the injustices meted out to them by society, all hell would break loose. Feminists are surviving only because of the foolishness of men.

Its also very fashionable nowadays to blame men for all the problems and to bash up male gender. Its mostly done by men like you out of habit, brainwashing by feminists, unreasonable sympathy for women vis-a-vis men, chivalry and sexual gratification. Its time men stop male-bashing. The comforts of the modern age is mostly because of the efforts of men. Men’s sacrifices are unaccounted for. That’s where the problem lies.

I’m wondering what injustice have men done to women? Baby-sitting women for entire life; either in the form of dad or husband?

I do not blame you for your views. For men like you think that unless you don’t pamper women, you won’t get one to have sex with.

So its basically you screw other men to get a chance to screw.

What a pity!!!!

Wayne,

Let them illtreat you, rob you off your possessions. Give me your address and telephone number, there are plenty of women I know who would glad to mistreat you. Have the guts, give me your complete details. I will do the needful. And yes, most of the wars were fought between men to appease women. Its all about women appeasement for which wars were fought! You didn’t tell me about the lower life expectancy of men when compared to women. Do you have an answer for that?

I didn’t know that the testosterone hormone was related to direct violence and crimes. No medical evidence has proven the same. Men were expected to outperform women and were expected to be strong and aggressive by the traditional society so that society as a whole could benefit by the sacrifices of men. Remember, there were no machines then. So, society was heavily dependent on muscle power of men. So, men were expected to be rough and tough, have no emotions, aggressive, strong and their social masulinity was to be earned through all these. This was a very clever design to get the maximum from men at a time when there was no machinisation and threat from nature was large. Now the situation has changed and women want the same privileges as men without the same responsibilities.

Amen!

Women would not go to wars for the simple reason that it requires a lot of physical endurance and religion was not the cause of wars at all. Religion was misused to wage wars which were ultimately for material acquisitions such as land and money. Yes, mothers had their role. But you are forgetting the sacrifices made by your father to bring you up with sweat and toil in the world out there and when in danger, it were the fathers who had to sacrifice to save the families. Why do you propound one-sided theories of mothers alone? Do you know that even women cry for fathers at the time of death? Its a psychology that fathers are closer to daughters and mothers to sons. Yeah, there are some women out here whom I know - they have no scruples and I have a small request for you. A small one in that. Please give me your address and bank account so that I can pass it on to them so that they can screw you up until the gender issue gets straightened up. Or, if you wish, I can ask them to be in touch with you directly. Can you do that please. Because, when you blame and condemn mankind, you are condemning yourself too. Unless you are a eunuch. So, let a woman control your bank account to screw up feminist men like you. Please give me your bank account number and password.

Male Gods, male history, get your facts right Mr. Wayne. You are still clung to a history you have neither witnessed nor influenced. Past cannot be used to justify present.

Nonsense! In Hinduism, there are Goddesses too. Men took the lead always because that’s nature’s way. Its not the fault of men. Also, men made most of the sacrifices. During calamities, it is women who were rescued first while the men made the final sacrifice. Nobody speaks about that because men are always disposable. It is men who are slaves of women, not the other way.

Hahaahahahahahahahhahahahaha, I could not help but laugh at this shitty piece of logic.

Rohan
Don’t pay attenion to the above post -i hit the wrong button sorry it looks like gibberish
My point was that if you are lucky you will find a woman who will change your mind and you will see the love woman can give with nothing of their own to follow

There are good women and bad women just as good men and bad men. But feminists like you want to showcase all women as good and all men as bad. That’s where the problem lies. You want to push your own agendas to gain political power. Its time to throw feminism lock, stock and barrel. Feminism = Talibanism!

You seem to be living in the ice age! You are fed by the western feminist media and that’s how they show India. India is the only nation where women can screw their men left, right and center and get away with murdering their men!

Wayne, your logic is absurd! Love is not the treasure of women alone. Women are great communicators and that’s how women dominate society. Men suppress their own emotions and so pay the price. Hugging a woman cannot help in any way to understand love. True love different and need not be in terms of hugs.

I have been through all that and one thing I have realized is that women are far smarter than men and always the power of other men on the man they want to control.

Turn around your argument and apply it to men. Is it not the same thing I am trying to impress?

If you acknowledge the rights of men and that men also get hurt, why do you support female domination?

Your logic is strange. Can you prove that it is a man’s world and not a woman’s world? I have said many things but you have not answered them at all.

what are you talking about?

That applies to your logic as well about women being victims rt?

Lynne as you can see because of fear or beaten down by man -they don’t respond and in a lot of the world they can’t
The first thing woman have to do is find purpose with gods they make up and start having a her-story over time before equality can be achieved and that is thousands of years away
Until then i hope i am judged by a female because punishing me with hugs and kisses is fine by me -better than man killing and cutting off body parts

Well, well, madame, more than the sexes battle, its a battle of rights. In the name of Women Empowerment, men are denied basic rights of justice. Sole testimony of a woman is considered to be Gospel truth, why???

Decisions? I’d love to see if women can take their own decisions. But they rarely do take the onus of it. All they want to do is find some man who can take the responsibility of their decisions yet they want to be equal to men.

Men are taken for granted in every sphere of life. Right from the age of 7, they are emotionally castrated and taught not to express their feelings and emotions and are always told to protect the females around them and at the end they get screwed for this very task.

Holy shit, gimme a break.

”As for all the wars - men start those too so they have to fight their own battles. We aren’t stupid enough to want to kill or be killed.”

Ofcourse why would you? Women instigate the wars and then have fun while men keep fighting and dying.

”I do tend to sympathise with men these days as they seem to be frustrated and some find it difficult to adjust to the modern women’s freedom because she now is free and can make her own decisions - what she does with her life - vote, work, marry, have children or not have children and rightly so!”

That also means, females have to take responsibility of their actions, they just cannot hold some men responsible for it and when women talk of equality, it has to permeate down to the level of punishment as well.

Its the fear of facing the truth. I can see your urge to pamper women.

Men are not able to adjust because the system severely discriminates them and does not recognise their rights. For example, women can work and have the same level of education - in fact, women get more encouragement than men. Still, it is men who have to provide and protect their women. Men cannot demand alimony or maintenance. Sympathy and compassion and moral superiority is still women’s domain and men are not given the benefits of equality. Women are getting the advantages of tradition and modernity.

Women are yet to pay for the equality. Until then, it is a man’s problem. When women start paying the price of equality, they know whose problem it is afterall. Men have been tolerating women’s rights without responsibilities for very long. Its time that men organise and give back. Then, women will be on the defensive.

The entire question of equality demand by women came about only on account of mechanisation and due to decrease in risk from nature and other factors. Even today, very few women are prepared to risk their lives to provide for their families. Very few women can be found as trench diggers and mine workers. Had it not been for mechanisation and decrease in risk, this gender war would not have arisen. Now women have got it into their heads and blame men for all the wrongs and take credit for all the good. Its time that men give back powerfully.

Wayne, its your absurd logic again. Perhaps you are in a different century and in Taliban. Women are no longer hesitant to speak up.It is the men who are the new women who are coerced into pampering women at their own costs.

You are yet to be liberated from your traditional role of protecting and defending women. You are pampering women without your knowledge.

Women have always got more than their share all through history. While the men die like dogs, women are in the comforts in their homes.

Virag
Glad we are not verbally talking or we would have horse throats
How is wanting to be hugged instead of being hurt by man pampering
Try it and you will remember how comforting it is
The reason i keep talking about the injustice to woman is i think it is time they took back a little piece of the world for themselves

Wa’d
Your wrong nature forces us to look for superficial first and is needed for the strongest gene servival and doesn’t care about feelings –that is a dizzy emotion after the fact-
Are you strong enough to look by logic and step back from mind forming for a second–99% OF HUMANS CAN’T

Hi Wayne :)
I just hate generalizations, women are and men are... I’ve said this about other issues as well. how about we start dealing with individuals rather than sexes or races.

and yes, I know people normally can’t do that, I know I worked hard to get where I am today, cognitively speaking, and that’s why I’m writing what I’m writing.

P.S.: Sorry all, but I dono why my first comment keeps being sent :S

Wayne logic,

Being in positions of power does not necessarily imply dominance. The fact is that a few men are ruling the world by pampering women, by exploiting smaller men and by male bashing. I know men personally in power who keep bashing other men to stay in power because by showing themselves as a ladies man, these men can appease women and the pro-women society and thus stay in power. But when it comes to them, they don’t want those rules to be applied. Just as YOU bash up men to get to the women so that you can have sex with women.

Virag
If you keep this up i am going to get your mother to send you to your room
You know the more you deni the truth the worse you look ,so take a break and maybe you will calm down ,
We beat this about as far as we can but if you persist then you might get the raft of some stronger woman ,so be careful

Wayne,
The problem is that you haven’t got the first terrible taste of feminism. There are two options: 1. You learn it by your intelligence and sensitivity. 2. You learn it the hard way. Unfortunately, you haven’t had the privilege of learning it the hard way nor do you have the sensitivity to understand it.

I have to disagree here Wayne. This is not something that I got through my culture or DNA or anything but my own work, let’s just say I studied hard and learned not to generalise no matter how big numbers are, I don’t deal with numbers, I deal with humans... am I always successful? NO... but I am working on it. and if I can do that then we all can, cz I know I am no better than u...

Thx...
peace :)

It will take a billion years for the voices of men to be heard. Society is always sensitive to women’s problems while men are disposable.

Virag
I might not agree with you but fell you have ever right to express your thoughts and i can hear your pain- but we have to take baby steps in the realm of change

hmmm... did I sound angry? cz I’m not, and I’m sorry if I gave such an impression...

I don’t have a problem saying that I was mistaken by ignoring the categories of people that u’ve mentioned in ur comment, and for that I apologize. I was talking about the average person, which I believe constitutes a big part of our world...

I dono about u Wayne, but I am here to exchange and learn from people, and this is exactly what I am doing right now...

seeyooo :)

How successful would you be living in a feminist society where men are like slaves to women, live on their terms and your father regularly prostrates before your mom....what would be your mental health if you are in a society where nature’s laws are thrown out and feminist laws are adopted

Hmmm, my learning process is not over yet, I have a lot more to do in this area :D

anyways, I’m glad we agree that we don’t have to be identical in our thought processes... I’ll see you around :)

Peace :)

Agreed Steven :)

STEVEN-First lets check numbers on this site- for instance has 7% woman talking and that means man dominate ,direct and controll all the conversation ,just as they do in the known world
Now tell me the god or gods or powerful ideals that woman created
Want more of a servant can woman be than to follow gods made by man
Your naive and not wanting to see truth blinded by your want to see things as makes you feel good but not the way they are and is why woman still have no say in a mans world
You take a couple instances and as exaggeration does ,try to make it truth-
you can name a few woman in all the history of man but man can be named millions of times
To take one freckle off a freckled body doesn’t make the body freckle free
The bible only mentioned girl once, in Joel 3:3. or In Zech 8:5 it has the word ”girls”
I know because these thoughts of truth can’t be seen by the culturally formed minds but i say it anyway

Wayne,

Your logic is absurd. This forum has more men because it is a matter of chance. I can get some women too if you wish. That doesn;t have any sense. Its like saying that on a particular day, at a bus stop, more men are spotted. That means, men alone travel by buses while women travel by cars,. Does it have any sense?

How do you know that Gods were made by men? Hinduism has Goddesses too. Does it imply that Goddesses were created by women? It is the men who are suppressed more than women because of men like you who want to appease women to quench your desire of sex.

Hi Wane... Again :)
I don’t think we both understand each other’s views, I actualy think we’re both talking a bout different things. What I agreed on is his antigeneralising comment which I made myself clear about yesterday.. I dono about the Bible, I am a Muslim, and I know how Quran mentioned both men and women.

P.S.: I am a girl... and I would not agree to comments condescending women. so it is either you didn’t understand where I am coming from, or I did not understand where ur coming from... either ways, it’s OK. no need to get disappointed by anyone...

Maaaan, is my English this f****d up that you keep misunderstanding what I am saying?

I am sorry if I insulted anyone over here, in anyway...

now I better get off and do something else, maybe more understandable to people... I just don’t like to keep explaining myself...

No matter how you add it up woman don’t do the same things as man , they don’t run most of the world ,or ever had or have they written most of the know his story nor have they had a say in language forming ,gods and i can go on all day about many more
We have a hard time saying that is how we evolved but like this naive answer picks a piece of sand up and calls it the hole beach

In The U.S., the situation is better. But then, how many female soldiers have died and how many male soldiers have died. Female population is more than male population. Yet, very few women soldiers have died. Very few women are in extreme danger zones. How many women are trench diggers or work that requires physical exertion? Yes, women certainly don’t want to pay the price of equality and blame the men for that. Time for men to act.

I think I was pretty respectful to u, but ur not used to that I’m afraid...
I wont waist anymore of ur or my time...

Peace

I have found peace of mind a long time ago. that’s Y I’m not trying to prove a point by my presence or by any of my comments here. I write about what I see, from my viewpoint, as a simple way of exchanging rather than imposing what I believe as the absolute truth.

Now, I shall not comment anymore on this post, cz I have more important things to do than going in circles around something that I know we’ll never agree on, simply bcz we’re humans...

No hard feelings though :)

seeyoo around in more exchanges were insults are not involved I hope...

Bbyee

Wayne,

Your reply is absurd. Women have been making men dance to their tunes without their own knowledge. Men make most of the sacrifices; yet women get the credit.

Oscar
What you write is true but people that have a formed mind can’t hear you, me, or anyone else, but we say it because our dna forces us to ,
Even grace instead of defending woman comments she agrees with you A MALE showing the condition is so complete that woman don’t even realize it’s happening
For woman to be treated equal to man, the world would have to be stared over again and at that time men carry the children and woman make up the gods

Wayne:
Grace didn’t agree with any other than the fact that this posts is inconclusive at best..

Where in a 2000 person German talk show study is there anything talking about the ”evil domination” of women in society..?

Grace only commented on a fact, it has NOTHING to do with her blindly agreeing to a comment made by a MAN..

You need to know Grace, she bows to no one, and especially not blind sexism.

@ W. Logic

I agree with Oscar 100% that this post is confusing and misleading. How can a survey of ”about” 2,000 people conducted over the Internet of ”television regions” ”commissioned by a television entertainment channel in Germany” represent the opinion of all human males and females that walk this planet?

I even dare not make any conclusion from the conclusion presented by the survey.

There are MANY considerations in this issue of gender inequality opinion polls. For starters, opinions from the free world will vary greatly from opinions from the unfree world. The West will be different from the East, etc etc.

The writer of this post would have done well to expound more on the survey he was referring to so as not to confuse the readers.

Btw, I also agree with ALL of Oscar’s observations that he mentioned in his earlier comment.

Now, those are objective observations stated sans emotional color.

The things he pointed out are ALL TRUE. I have seen those conditions happening.

Oscar,

Which world are you living in? I am referring to the traditional role of men being protectors and providers of society and women. Now women are getting equality and same time, they are getting the advantages of tradition. It is men who are imprisoned first because of a mere allegation of a woman. Get your facts right. Don’t say things without proof. Take a look: www.498a.org there are plenty of men who are suffering because of women. It is because of blind men like you who have a weakness for women that women are dominating men left, right and center.

Oscar,

You better get the facts right before you make such dastardly statements. Most of what you have said is the exact opposite of what it is in reality. For example, women don’t fight in any wars - probably in a minority. Most people who die in wars are men. Most insurance policies are taken by men and women get the benefits of compensation. Men pay most of the taxes and get no social support. While women pay less tax and get all social support. An unemployed man is not considered a man at all because a man is supposed to earn his manhood. Women are respected just being women.

@ Rohan:

I’m afraid MY world and YOUR world are quite different, my friend.

I entered the website you requested I view..498a.com

I do see many men have fallen victim to misuse and abuse of DOWRY..Many in this world, including MINE do things a bit different.

Maybe you should right your congressman.

@Oscar,

Its different because you are blind towards the pain and problems of men and support women and feminists. I am yet to see a world where women are hauled up merely on the accusations of a man. I haven’t seen what you have claimed - women fight on the battle front and sacrifice their lives. How many men soldiers died in the Vietnam war? How many women soldiers died in the Iraq war - 1 and 2? How many women Commandos died in the Mumbai terrorist attack? May I tell you that in the recent Mumbai terror attacks, all 20 Commandos were MEN and not women. In the 1999 Kargil war, all the soldiers were MEN and not women. So, your claims are baseless. Can you prove your claims?

http://dianawashingtonvaldez.blogspot.com/2008/06/two-policewomen-killed-in-another.html

http://dianawashingtonvaldez.blogspot.com/2008/07/juarez-policewoman-killed-morning-of.html

http://noticias.prodigy.msn.com/landing.aspx?cp-documentid=18186335

http://www.amnesty.org.au/news/comments/15873/

Women in Mexico earn less. Due to economics, women at least here, are more ofton than not working in the ”modern” world, and still maintaining their ”traditional” roles as wife, mother, and homemaker.

Women are fighting along side the men as police and soldiers in our war against drugs..the narcos seldom give them the ”benefit” of being a woman before shooting them dozens of times with AK-47 or AR-15.

young girls are raped repeatedly by fathers, brothers, uncles, and cousins...yet our law seldom helps them, in fact the law will ofton refuse to take their reports and if they do, they pressure the women/girls to drop charges and return home..

Not all men are good, not all women are good. I don’t know if I am a feminist as you call me...maybe I am, maybe not.

I do not feel women should be held as ”all mighty or sacred” just because they are women, nor do I feel men should have it..I think how we treat a person should be based on individual merit.

I do believe in equal opportunities..but for all: that doesn’t mean I feel men and women are the SAME....to consider that would be, well, crazy.

We are VERY different:not only as men and women, but as individuals.We have stregnths and weaknesses, logics and illogics.

@Oscar’s wife:

Your links are partially true. The sacrifices of women in wars and in the line of duty are insignificant compared to men who die like dogs. 94% of people who die in the line of duty and during wars are MEN, not women. In the Kargil war, it was 100% men and so was it during Mumbai terror attacks.

Regarding domestic violence, I disagree with you because men’s issues and problems are never highlighted by media. Men are as vulnerable to domestic violence as women are. Yet, the media doesn’t focus on that. Check out these sites to know more: www.savefamily.org www.saveindianfamily.org www.mynation.net www.protectindianfamily.org www.ghrs.in

Grace,
The survey is an indicator to the changes that are sweeping world societies. Indeed, men are slowly feeling discriminated. Some men are organising. The fact is that women are being liberated while men are deliberately kept under the control of tradition because society knows that men are beasts of burden and cannot be dispensed with. Nor can society accept men to take on lighter roles because women simply cannot perform physically arduous tasks like men do. So, today, women are dominating because they are getting the advantages of tradition and modernity together.

Further, the rest of the world is following the footsteps of Europe and America. Both Europe and America are highly feminised and female dominated. That being the case, this survey is a pointer to what to expect in the world in times to come.

I manage an international NGO that works towards the equality of women in society. I know exactly what gender bias is. I also know that the world is a patriarchal society.

I was merely commenting on the credibility of the survey referred to in the post.

Wayne, stop bashing up men - in dong that, you are bashing up yourself too. If you want to get bashed, it is a different issue. I can do it for you. BTW, it is women who are suppressing men by manipulating them and making them do things as they wish. It is men who are dying in large numbers like dogs and yet all the attention is on women who die, though in small numbers. How much can men tolerate?

Hehe...

You are a pre-coffee wakeupper.

But thank you, Wayne, for defending women.

You are at the right time of the gender evolution wayne. Its the time when the world is feminist. It is the time when the word ’Man’ implies regressiveness, backwardness, brute force, animalism, violence etc. while the word ’woman’ is perceived as progress, forwardness, trust, hope, sensitivity, intelligence, human etc. Its time to liberate men like you and the majority of men out there because you are hell-bent on defending women as it is a part of your traditional duty.

Sorry Wayne but defending Grace, I was not, only pointing out the obvious.

Now, to as for Grace, let me go ahead and lean into my already obvious display of illogical, gender protecting, sexism...

I do know Grace. I have sat on the sidelines for almost a year now, listening to her comments and reasonings. She is in no need of my protection or assistance. She is human, like you, me, and the supposed man on the man..

The same as anyone, she may see grren when I see blue, when you see aqua or olive..Live is life..Not everything that is not absolute logic falls to absolute illogic.

Paz Compadre

Wayne:
I actually asked my wife, knowing she is quite, opinionated in this realm, to read this post, it’s comments, and comment on what she thought...

Ya know what she said ”I have more important things to do in my life than waste my time with the likes of insecure men who wish to victimize themself while beating a dead horse.”

Women don’t worry about tryingto change minds..Women not only KNOW, as humans, we only have the power to change our individual selves, but work that belief and knowledge steadfastly...

Oscar,

Not surprising that you have pro-women outlook. You need to seek permission from your wife everytime and everywhere. Yes, women care a damn for male rights because they know that majority of men are pro-women because of their weakness for women. If men’s rights constitute insecurity, how about women’s rights? Do women who fight for women’s rights insecure too?

Oscar, Your wife is very wise.

Wayne:
I think the misunderstanding came as my fault, as I felt I could shorten her comment to me allowing less one finger typing for me and still the same meaning for her..

Looks like, I just got it from both sides..YOURS AND HERS.

She ”doesn’t need to be yacking it up with insecure men who will continue to feel victimized as long as they do not have absolute control over ”their women”, what men don’t understand is my ACTIONS will speak 1000 times louder than my WORDS. My words I prefer to use amongst other women to encourage them to stand up for themselves.YOU do not understand, I do not need to SCREAM to be heard, I only need to ACT, AND STAND-My encouraging words to another woman will be passed on to the thousands. In time, our indivif¿dual one on one whispers will be deafening and our actions will be subtle, yet just. Women do not seek DOMINATION, we seek the same opportunity to SURVIVE by adjusting to an ever changing world.”

Nice to meet you Wayne...

Bravo!!

Was that he comment from your wife, Oscar?

Beautiful! Great!

That is precisely the message of gender equality:

”Women do not seek DOMINATION, we seek the same opportunity to SURVIVE by adjusting to an ever changing world.”

This is the spirit of it all. There is no need for competition. No need for domination. There shouldn’t even be any debate on who’s dominating whom. All these negate the principle of EQUALITY.

Women aren’t fighting to be dominant. What they want is equal footing.

The word ’domination’ is a concept of the patriarchal world where insecure men are always threatened by the slightest diminution of their power.

Oscar,

Feminism is all about domination. Its only dumb guys who fall prey to feminism and support it. You are yet to pay the price of feminism dude. Pay it and then you will know what I am saying. Its easy to pass off things saying those who support men’s issues are insecure. In that case, those who support women’s issues are as much insecure.

Grace,

Women are yet to pay the real price of equality. Once that happens, we would know. World is undergoing a major transformation and right now, women are at the top, getting the advantages of tradition and modernity. You women don’t know the price of equality because you are yet to pay for it. So you keep harping on gender equality while you take the advantages of your gender.

Wayne:

I’n beginning to see why so many people, including my husband, get hung up on this site, it is, quite interesting to say the least.

You don’t have to fear hurting my feelings, I understand you speak with respect, person to person, for that, I thank you.

I, as a women, prefer to choose my ”battles” wisely. Shouting to defend myself as a woman, is not only unnecessary , it all too ofton falls on deaf ears.

I cannot force sight on one who CHOOSES to be blind and I cannot force words on those who PRETEND to be deaf, but I can TEACH those who are willing to learn.



I can TEACH my children (both my sons and my daughter) and I can guide them by example along side my husband, no more, no less.

YOU need not hear my whispers or my SCREAMS to FEEL my presence, to sense my person.

This is not domination, this is human survival, this is my adapting to a world that is in continuous motion and change.

Ignorance is the worlds greatest birth defect, it can be treated, but so many choose the comfort of living in a ”known” world than the trials of adapting to the unknown.

This is natural selection..There are those who can adapt and move forward, survive, and there are those who will remain frozen in time until extinction.

Again, it’s been a pleasure.

To Oscar’s wife below:

Adapting t change is fine as long as it is convenient. Women want this change to happen and are easily adapting to it because it is very very convenient to them. Once you start paying for this change, you will know and you will see the true picture. Pay the price of equality and then say such things.

ROHAN:

I’m not sure what price you’d like me to pay.

I work 3 jobs AND take care of my husband and kids FIRST before ever even having the chance to think about myself.

I earn on average 37% LESS in each of my jobs than my male co-workers, regardless of me having the same or more education and experience.

I work hard, pay taxes out the ass, and help my fellow man and community in any and every way possible..Yet I am still, more ofton than not, expected to remain silent in local town and office meetings.

I’m really sorry there are MEN being beaten down, but I assure you it goes both ways..

There are MANY worthless, cheating, whacked people in this world..As far as your website about dowery misuse, I’m sure it does happen..Maybe it’s time to question and/or change the system instead of berating and bilittling every ounce of FEMINISM in te world.

@Oscar’s wife:

You are an exception! You claim to be working in three places. I am astounded! I don’t know whether you have 24 hours a day or more. You also claim you get 37% less pay. I don’t agree with you. If you were in the gulf and had made that statement, I would agree and believe you. Being in the west, which is totally feminised, I cannot agree with you at all. There are enough institutions and NGOs in the west that are feminist. A small written complaint to the labour dept. or ombudsman will have the entire organisation on its knees! How can you claim that? In America as in the rest of the west, women make a killing out of divorce proceedings. There are plenty of career-divorcees. They hook up guys, sleep with them for a particular period and then divorce. They get a share in the property and regular maintenance. Now regarding the price that women have to pay for equality, I am referring to women in general and not specific cases. I am yet to see women pay for men on dates. I am yet to see women pay alimony to men, maintenance to men. I am yet to see men getting married without a job, while women get married without having a job. In India, the identity of a man is directly and continuously linked to his employment. A man cannot claim to be unemployed and yet get respect. A woman can claim to be a homemaker and get all the respect she deserves as a human being. Lastly, I am yet to see women in tough, arduous, dangerous professions. Even in America, all the trench diggers, people at the battle front, mine workers are men, not women! Maybe a minority are women. So, with due respect to the exceptional women like you, the majority are getting the advantages of tradition and modernity. It is men who are made to dance to the tunes of women. Men are still expected to perform all of their traditional roles, while women are liberated. Let women start paying the price of equality.

To Oscar’s wife:

Yes, feminism as a concept is impractical and unnatural. For the simple reason that it does not recognise the natural differences between the sexes. It is based on absurd notions of equality between two differently abled people. It has come about only because of technology and mechanisation. Even today, when technology fails, as happens during natural calamities, it is men who are expected to do the needful. Feminists have messed up world societies with their absurd ideology and created a rift between the sexes on gender roles etc. Its time to kick out feminists and feminism. Communists did enough damage. Now, feminists have done much more than the communists could dream of. Men will not keep quiet for very long. The next generation of men will not have the hangover of the past. They would see the reality as it affects them.

Rohan:

My days are LONG, but I wouldn’t change it for the world. I’m lucky, Oscar and I have worked it to where we can do the majority of our work without sacraficing our children and family unity.

A typical week for me includes teaching 113 elementary students 3 days a week (24 hours not including preparing lesson plans, tests, grading and supivosor/parent teacher meetings) writing for a local paper (15 hours) and working with Oscar in a family recreational real estate business (publicity, collections, sales, finance reports)..Beginning March 21st I will need to reopen the Complex’s store and will be there for the majority of the day after school and from 9-9 on saturdays and sundays...

Apart from that I take the kids to their after school functions, do the grocery shopping, prepare the meals, clean house, do laundry, pay bills, check our kids homework and prepare them for their exams, remind Oscar (as he calls me his hard drive) of HIS appointments and schedule, and more...of course this doesn’t include doctors appointments, haircuts, vet appointments, car repairs, family affairs....making cupcakes for my kids school functions, cheerleading for my oldest sons football games and chilling out having fun with Oscar and the kids..

I am generally the last one to bed (around 12:45- 1:30 a.m.) and the first to rise to get the gang moving for the new day (generally 5:30- 5:50 a.m.)



As for my pay, in the school where I work, I DO make 37% less than my male coworker, even though I choose the courses, meet with supervisors, and create HIS program...that is NOT to say I am going to accept it. I have already proved my worth (my boss has told me, this isn’t just a whimsical statement) and will soon be up for a new contract. At this time, I have already made myself clear of my needs and desires. I entered and accepted a lower pay to get my foot in the door, now I have not only opened the door for myself, but for the school as it has a proven and well admired program which I have created...I expect nothing for free, I don’t mind proving my work...now that I have done it, now is my chance to renegotiate.

Even in our business, I run sales, but it is incredible the amount of men who refuse to do business with me...They will shake my hand and wait hours for Oscar to finish other work to talk about sales, as ”business is for men”....

I wish I could explain my thoughts to you. I do NOT seek for women take over the world. I am very aware there are differences between men and women, but my search for equality is based on HUMAN traits and rights such as equal opportunity for employment along with equal pay for equal work, equal rights to education, equality in expression, protection, security..



Oscar and I were raised VERY differently. We come from different worlds you migh say. We had many struggles early in our marriage and misunderstandings, but we worked through them by letting go of our ”inherited” social and family ”traditions”...and creating our own, together.

I KNOW what is out there..believe me. I have two sons (one in med school and one preparing to enter prepa in the fall) and one ten year old daughter.

AWe have raised our sons and daughter to respect among all other, men, women, and child. I have seen my sons cry and my daughter irrate. They ALL have an equal opportunity to speak and be heard. They were all taught they must LISTEN as well. They were taught respect must be earned and trust and honesty are golden.. Each of them know what it is to work, there are no ”free meals” in this world.

You may see my point of view as ”feminist”, but I don’t want my daughter to HAVE to depend on a man economically or emotionally, to feel marriage is the only way to a good, secure life...Nor do I want my sons to feel they MUST pull the load, bare all obligations alone, for any woman.
Realtionships and Marriage are a union of equal consent...To me, if a couple makes their choices together and with equal consent.

What I seek, in rights, is a breaking of ”tradition” for men and women.

It’s been a pleasure Rohan.

STEVEN
I learnt long ago that to tell the truth about how we evolved falls on deaf ears because emotion and cultural forming doesn’t allow it
I use the (i am a moron) approach and when people talk down to you they seem to listen better
What you wrote is correct to logic but not emotion

Nature still rules. Its just that its become too infrequent. During calamities, it is men who are expected to take charge, even today. About your theory of benefits to each gender, I agree. But, in the end, we are becoming more and more unnatural. Men and women definately are differently made. Even the brains are different. Hence, unnatural concepts of gender equality will have a negative effect on both sexes. Think about it. Comfort alone cannot give peace.

Hi Rohan its true about different brains, I know women switch off if you start talking about car parts or oil changes. And most men dont like endless window shopping.

I dont know if its good or bad for consequences,i hope its ok, its prety complex - natures logics, but its what women want and its probably inevitable. and a lot of men dont mind.

I know some men had some terrible personal experiences, with children custody, money divorce sttlements etc But men - they have to adjust to the new realities of law and the fact that our present lover can become our most potential enemy (as in all times in the past) but just with new equality laws to use. But fighting in strategic ways is human nature.

Madam,

All this talk about so-called patriarchy and it being primitive is being made to fool people to suit the interests and convenience of women and only because of technological progress that has made life easier. But when it comes to breakdown of machines, it is men who are expected to take charge. Patriarchy suddenly becomes a friend. When it comes to issues that suit women, women want patriarchy to exist - afterall they are women. Madam, start paying the price of equality and then alone will women and the society know the difficulty.

I am not battered. I am unmarried. I am intelligent enough and sensitive enough to understand the game of feminism. Its plain fraud and manipulation of men.

RAJAGOPALAN
I see your trying to bring a little humor to this sometimes heated opinion bashing and it can be a good idea except
woman seem to be the ones made fun of
I like a person of humor in this world of too mutch sadness–be good and smile